Rowan Williams says Islam makes positive contribution to society, ‘secularist’ groups disagree

Rowan_WilliamsIslam is restoring traditional British values such as shared responsibility and duty, a former archbishop has said.

Rowan Williams said that Muslims had brought back “open, honest and difficult public discussion” in one of their “greatest gifts” to Britain.

He used a speech yesterday to criticise sections of the press for portraying Muslims as “un-British” and complained of “illiteracy” about religion among figures in government.

Secularist groups accused Dr Williams of “foolishness”, but his remarks were welcomed by British Muslim organisations.

Keith Porteous Wood, the executive director of the National Secular Society, said: “I’m still smiling about the comments he made about Sharia law a few years ago. You’d think he’d have learnt his lesson.”

In 2008, when still Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Williams provoked controversy by stating that the application of some aspects of Islamic law in British courts was “unavoidable”. He also drew both praise and criticism after telling a literary festival in 2012 that the hijab gave some Muslim women strength.

Yesterday, Dr Williams, who stood down as the head of the Church of England to become master of Magdalene College, Cambridge, in 2012, told the Living Islam Festival in Lincolnshire that Christianity and Islam were shifting British values back towards the community.

He said that Britain was an “argumentative democracy” where “we are not just individual voters ticking boxes but individuals and communities engaging in open, honest and difficult public discussion. One of the greatest gifts of the Muslim community to the UK has been that they have brought that back to the people.”

Asked if he meant that Islam was rejuvenating British values, Dr Williams said: “Yes. I’m thinking of the way in which, for example, in Birmingham we have seen a local parish and a mosque combining together to provide family services and youth activities, both acting out of a very strong sense that this is what communities ought to do. ”

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Are French Muslims integrated? Depends on what you mean by integration

Jennifer Fredette, assistant professor of political science at Ohio University and author of Constructing Muslims in France – Discourse, Public Identity, and the Politics of Citizenship, takes up the misuse of the term “integration” in the French context, where it is reinterpreted to justify a one-sided and discriminatory demand for assimilation:

The social scientific definition of “integration” refers to a dual process whereby immigrants embrace and become invested in their new home and are, in turn, accepted as equals by those who were there before them. In French political discourse, however, the term “integration” generally loses the reciprocal connotation. Here, a “failure of integration” refers lopsidedly to the inability of immigrants to assimilate into local customs and attitudes, consequently retaining markers of social difference that set them apart….

Politicians on the far right are not alone in questioning the civic virtues of French Muslims: they are joined by politicians on the center-right and the left. The media are full of articles questioning the Frenchness of Muslims. Several respected intellectuals have gone so far as to critique Islam or practices some Muslims choose to follow as incompatible with the Republic.

When these shapers of public opinion consistently raise criticisms of Muslims and demand legal action against the headscarf in public primary and secondary schools, universities, and beach areas; against the niqab in public; and against prayer in the streets (which resulted from a lack of prayer space and open hostility at the municipal level to mosque construction), they rarely exhibit any self-awareness that they themselves are standing in the way of the second half of integration.

Monkey Cage, 29 July 2014

Muslim women thrown out of French swimming pool for wearing ‘burkinis’

Rives des CorbieresTwo Muslim women were ordered to leave a swimming pool in a French holiday village on the southwest coast for wearing body-covering “burkinis”. The women had plunged into the pool at le Port Leucate wearing full body swimsuits, including a head-covering hijab veil, but were immediately told to get out of the water.

The women at the Rives des Corbieres holiday camp were told to leave as they had breached the camp’s rules allowing only conventional bikinis or one-piece swimsuits “for hygiene reasons”.

Police received conflicting accounts of what happened next. The pool’s lifeguard filed a complaint saying the husband of one of the women threatened him with a bowling ball. The husband filed a complaint claiming security personnel beat him up.

Marie-Paule Bardeche, a regional government official said: “This is above all an issue stemming from the holiday centre’s internal regulations, in place for hygiene and sanitary reasons. Access to the swimming pool is reserved for ordinary swimsuit wearers.”

The holiday camp where the burkini incident took place is run by a staunchly secular organisation called the “Aude federation of secular works”.

Daily Telegraph, 22 July 2010


See also the Daily Mail, 22 July 2010

Here are some comments from the Mail (bear in mind that they have been “moderated in advance”):

“Hooray for the French. If burka-wearers are so extreme in their islamic views, then why don’t they go back to their islamic countries?”

“Well, France always was the pioneer of common sense … now it is, hopefully, paving the way for the rest of Europe regarding the encroachment of Islamofascism.”

“Stupid women in stupid outfits, taking orders from stupid men with stupid ideas. End of story. Well done to France for having the backbone to ban these idiots.”

“The French are finally fighting back after decades of being intimidated by the enormous mass of their immigrant population from North Africa. Immigrants which were brought in by the millions by previous misguided politicians, as a permanently loyal voter base – except they turned out not to be loyal at all. Now the French have to cope with riots in the streets by the disaffected immigrants’s children. With unmanageable crime rates. With crippling Welfare costs. And with the slow but sure disintegration of their culture, institutions and way of life. Does that sound familiar?”

“Well done France – a nation prepared to fight for their heritage and culture in the face of the coloniser’s onslaught.”

“GOOD, they deserve to be kicked out … this thing were we in the west pamper to the wims of these fanatics should stop.”

“It would never happen in this country, we the British would be asked to leave before muslims.”

“You have to admire the French, they don’t stand for any nonsense unlike the British who pander to anyone who is not British.”

“Why should radical Muslims think they can have special treatment. In fact far too many people are kowtowing down to these radicals demand.”

“if Muslims don’t like the way we do things in Europe then it’s quite simple they should go and live in a Muslim country. This would stop the tension for Muslims and non-Muslims.”

“GOOD! Bravo France. Its about time people in the West stood up to this. If they dont like our laws, rules and beliefs and have no respect for them then fine, go and live in a Muslim country that does.”

“Well done France! If women still decide to wear this form of attire then they have no right to be in a Western country.”

France suspends plans for Halal prison meals

Saint-Quentin-Fallavier prisonFrance’s highest administrative body has suspended a plan to provide Halal meals for Muslim inmates in one prison in the country’s east.

The council of state ruled on Wednesday that providing Halal meat at Saint-Quentin-Fallavier prison in the city of Grenoble was impractical “owing to its financial cost and high needs for organisation”.

France’s Justice Minister Christiane Taubira, who had been contesting the plan since 2013, argued it would infringe on France’s rules on secularism that ban religious expression in public places.

France’s highest appeals court will make the final decision in the case.

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Legal challenge to French mayor’s ban of Muslim hijab on beach

Affiche wissous plageAfter two mothers wearing Muslim hijabs, or headscarves, were refused access to a beach in the French municipality of Wissous, its regional government of Essone on Saturday legally challenged Wissous’ ban on the wearing of religious symbols.

The Versailles Administrative Court, approached in an urgent joint application by Essone and by the Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF), was due to give its decision late Saturday afternoon.

Wissous Mayor Richard Trinquier, of the right-wing UMP party, had been at the beach the previous Saturday and had made the decision to turn the women away. Wissous is about 30 kilometres south of Paris and is a popular summer leisure spot.

Trinquier told the hearing the beach rule protected France’s commitment to secularism. He said it was in no way an obstacle to the practice of religion, but that there had been an increasing presence of religious symbols in public, which were “an obstacle to living together”.

The applicants argued that the by-law forbidding religious symbols on the beach established by the mayor amounted to “religious discrimination” that “violates the principles of the Republic”.

The rule “violates a fundamental freedom, the freedom of religious belief”, argued the lawyer for the CCIF, Sefen Guezguez. He said it showed a misunderstanding of the law.

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French mayor bans hijab from beach

Richard TrinquierTwo mothers were refused access to the beach at Wissous, Essonne, because they were wearing Muslim headscarves.

The women had taken their children to the popular summer leisure venue at the weekend, but they fell foul of a new bylaw that refuses entry to anyone wearing distinctive “religious symbols”.

Patrick Kitnais, director of the mayor’s office told Europe 1 that the women were wearing a hijab, a scarf that covers the head but does not hide the face. “The mayor was there, so he denied access to these people,” he said.

The town’s UMP mayor, Richard Trinquier [pictured], who ousted Socialist incumbent Roy Regis-Chevalier in March’s municipal elections, insisted he had applied “the law of the Republic and secularism”, in refusing entry to the two women, and said anyone wearing a distinctive cross or yarmulke would also be banned.

He said that the beach at Wissous is not a public place. It is, he said, a public establishment – and therefore it is bound by laws that prohibit the wearing of religious symbols. “If women remove their veils, they are welcome,” he said.

A 2004 law governing the wearing of conspicuous religious symbols applies only to educational establishments.

Former mayor Mr Regis-Chevalier branded the incident an “Islamophobic act”. And Abdelkrim Benkouhi, president of local Islamic association Al Madina, said: “The children were shocked and did not understand why they could not play on the inflatables like every other child. In previous years, there have been no problems.”

Representatives of Al Madina met the mayor to discuss the matter, but the two sides could not reach an agreement, Le Parisien reports. “The mayor says it is a private space. This is pure and simple discrimination,” Mr Benkouhi said.

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French high court upholds firing over head scarf

Baby LoupFrance’s top court has upheld the decision of a childcare centre to fire an employee for wearing the Islamic headscarf, the hijab.

The case has dragged on for six years, pitting French legal interpretations of secularism against laws guaranteeing personal freedom of expression.

The privately run Baby Loup childcare centre in Chanteloup-les-Vignes, near Paris, fired Fatima Afif for violating a rule against displaying symbols of religious faith in 2008.

Years of legal battles have been fought against the background of the long-running debate on Islamic dress and the secular French republic and also raised questions of employers’ and employees’ rights in the workplace. Wednesday’s ruling was the fifth court decision on the case.

“It’s good news for the children, for the women and for the staff of Baby Loup, for Muslims and non-Muslims, for those who believe and those who do not, and for the republic and our capacity to live together within it,” commented the creche’s lawyer Richard Malka.

“The only people for whom it’s not good news are those who feed off political and religious difference and confrontation. After several years of legal and ideological battles, Baby Loup has moved mountains. France will remain secular, and we are thankful for it.”

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Dawkins joins far right in denouncing prison sentences for SDL hooligans

Yesterday Scottish Defence League supporters Chelsea Lambie and Douglas Cruikshank were jailed for behaving in a threatening or abusive manner likely to cause fear and alarm after being convicted of desecrating Edinburgh Central Mosque with bacon.

Both Lambie and Cruikshank, it should be noted, had previous convictions for threatening and abusive behaviour, which undoubtedly contributed to the judge’s decision to impose custodial sentences. Cruikshank got 9 months as against Lambie’s 12 months because unlike her he had the sense to plead guilty.

Lambie and Cruikshank do however have their defenders, who are outraged that they should receive prison sentences or even have been charged at all.

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